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I've been watching the circus of the San Antonio Pagan Pride Day on Yahoo Groups for a few weeks now and if nothing else, it reinforces my thought that the local community sucks.

Pagan Pride Day is supposed to take place in the Fall, sometime around the Autumn Equinox. Its meant to a public showing of ourselves...community outreach, de-mystifying ourselves to the general population, etc.

Last year there was all sorts of drama involved with the Coordinator and a local coven. The coven was sponsoring a fundraiser in the form of a raffle. PPD isnt free...there's space to rent, a security guard to pay for, food/beverages and all that. And being that Pagans are notoriously broke, it was clear the money necessary to pull off PPD was not going to come from our own purses, hence the fundraiser. Somehow the Coordinator decided she was going to use the money raised for something else...and the coven who sponsored this raffle was understandably angry about it. It was shady, it was full of drama and hate and ended with the coven publicly giving the Coordinator and PPD a big fuck you.

You would think there would be someone new as Coordinator this year, right?

Oh no. Same lady. More shady shit this year!

This year's great fundraising idea was a Midsummer's Ball. This was decided back in like...January. And on paper, it seemed like a good idea. It was supposed to be for Pagans and the general public (in keeping with the spirit of PPD). Unfortunately, they did NO advertising. None. Hell, I didnt start hearing anyone talk about the Ball until roughly a month before it was supposed to happen! So when they came within a week of the event and had only sold FOUR tickets...the event was cancelled. So long, fundraiser!

The Coordinator posted a bunch of pics on the local site that were supposedly from last year's PPD. Only, they werent. They were actually pictures from a private event the "angry Coven" from last year held. The pics heavily featured children. The Coven politely asked that the pictures be removed from the site. Seems reasonable enough: the pics are NOT of PPD. The Coven pointed out that as a parent, Coordinator had to respect another parent's wishes in not having a child's image plastered all over the Internets for some group's advertising. Coordinator completely ignored the request. And THREE other requests. It wasnt until someone got bitchy about the photos that she decided to speak up about it. And of course, that was snarky.

She made the comment that if you arent out of the closet, then you shouldnt attend PPD at all. That got EVERYONE pissed off because the whole purpose behind PPD is being able to attend whether you are Pagan or not, closeted or not. Community outreach, remember? Coordinator never retracted her statement, never apologized for it either.

Coordinator regularly pops off with snippy, rude remarks to people in the group, especially when people are asking legitimate questions that need answers. And heaven forbid your opinion is different than hers! She'll bitch you out, then tell you to take the conversation off-list. Oh ok, so you can rip into people publicly, thus displaying your superiority...and then you can send the bad little Pagan to her room for a time-out where you'll presumably do more bitching? Classy, lady...oh so classy.

Several questions people have are blatantly ignored. Important questions pertaining to actually running said event. Like, how much $ do we have in the bank for this? Who is doing advertising - and what is being done? Who is running certain important committees? And what progress is being made in those committees? Late last week a number got dropped. They need $850 for the space and the security guard. If we dont cough up that money asap, the event will be cancelled.

So let me get this straight. The event is roughly 2 months away and you need close to a Grand and you've done NOTHING to get that money all year long? And you STILL aren't advertising this event in any way?

One of the volunteer coordinators said something about this in her private Facebook. Coordinator lady took said posting and made it public to the PPD list, bitching out said volunteer for her opinion. It was tacky and childish, something I'm seeing regularly from this stupid Coordinator. Predictably, the posting created a shitstorm all weekend long. Most of the volunteers that were helping organize this fiasco have quit in disgust (including the co-chair). Not just over the latest flame war, they are disgusted with the way the whole thing has been done (or not done as the case may be)

Its downright pathetic if you ask me. San Antonio is the 7th largest city in the United States and we have a large, diverse Pagan population. And yet the majority of the "public" Pagans in this area are snooty, catty bitches who cant play nice with anyone - including themselves. Worse, when they do get someone with brains and a willingness to volunteer, they refuse to cooperate with that person - because they CLEARLY know best, what with how wildly successful their events have been. Gee, no wonder we are all apathetic and lazy! As much as I am willing and able to volunteer and help out, I absolutely refuse to deal with those people. Maybe next year someone will get smart and take over because as long as that crazy woman is in charge it will be nothing but a Clusterfuck Circus.

Goodie...another year, another lame excuse for San Antonio's Pagan Pride Day.

Date: 2010-07-06 01:59 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] brandedeclipse.livejournal.com
I'm so sorry that the SA crowd is being such idiots.
I have a sneaking feeling that I know said "coordinator" and that I agree with your assessment fully- even though it's been years and years since I lived in SA.

Sadly, I've learned from experience that if I don't run it, the general public just gets an idiot to run it. Thus, the reason I stupidly get volunteered a lot. Sigh.

I'd just plain old give the old coordinator the heave ho, and begin making your own plans, starting a few pagan friends at a time and gradually bringing in more.
San Antonio is such a lovely city, and I could see an event like PPD bringing in a nice chunk of tourism from nearby areas like Austin, Houston, or even Corpus. (And yes, I'm well aware those range in reality from 2-4 hours away depending on which version of the state's speed limit you choose to break.)
That being said, SA city should actually offer use of certain public facilities as if you were planning a tourist event.

And yeah... I'm running my mouth a bit there. I'll shut up now.

Date: 2010-07-06 02:01 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] layla-aaron.livejournal.com
What a shame it's a CF Circus thanks to the coordinator. But more to the point, who hires her over and over and over? If they want an actual event, then they need to find another coordinator and need to listen to volunteers. It's such a shame you're dealing with that asshattery.

Date: 2010-07-06 03:00 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] tattooedraven.livejournal.com
Wow what a mess. Only way to fix such a mess is to heave-ho the current "coordinator" and find someone who knows what's going on and fend off the oh-so helpful (and hopefully) ex-coordinator and help heal the damage done.

But it's always easier said than done. :\

Date: 2010-07-06 03:14 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] mythandwonder.livejournal.com
Oh dear! If it makes you feel any better, Philadelphia probably isn't even going to have a PPD this year. Who knows?

Date: 2010-07-06 03:17 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] softlywhispered.livejournal.com
So what I'm reading is that the Pagan group is headed by a small minded woman who is the head of a clique, and apparently pretty "powerful", so "powerful" that she has people afraid of her - afraid to oust her from the current position that she holds.


No one else wants to run the PPD. And with that, she does a half assed job and gets away with it. I'm sorry that you're having to do this, but perhaps someone else should step up to the job?

Date: 2010-07-06 05:54 pm (UTC)From: (Anonymous)
uhmmmm is there a correlation between PPD (Pagan Pride Day) and PPD (Pervasive Developmental Disorder)? Sounds like some egos need to evolve. Good luck with that!?!

Date: 2010-07-07 12:37 am (UTC)From: [identity profile] faerielliebe.livejournal.com
Forgot to sign in, this was me.

Date: 2010-07-06 05:56 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] spaceoperadiva.livejournal.com
When we moved back to South Texas after being away for 6 years, my first thought upon seeing who was in charge of what up San Antonio way was "Are they insane? Who puts Crazy Person in charge of anything of note?" Then I told myself to stop being a cynical doofus. People, even Crazy People, can grow and change. Apparently my cynicism wasn't misplaced.

I see South Texas Pagan business as usual is still its same old self! And I'm very sorry for that. I had hoped that the community had grown up and stopped it with the clannish and self-defeating behaviors.


P.S. The pagan community in Utah? Pretty much the same show, only difference being different faces in the starring roles. It makes me wonder what's wrong with us.

Date: 2010-07-06 06:06 pm (UTC)From: [identity profile] nebris.livejournal.com
It has been my experience that most Pagans are way too clannish to be able to effectively organize beyond maybe the 'coven' level.

Of course, one can find plenty of this type of nonsense in local Christian groups too, the desperate grasping of petty power by some tiny personality. But I suspect the overall marginalization of Pagans makes that syndrome even worse.


You should plan a trip here!

Date: 2010-09-12 08:08 pm (UTC)From: [personal profile] rainflowermoon
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for Pagan Pride Day! Ours is fairly decent and there are plenty of vendors. I haven't gone yet, but the roomies have brought me back some gorgeous goodies. Besides, there will be banana bread! *giant hint* lol-and the coordinators actually know wtf they're doing.
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